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03-15-2012 12:44 PM
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Oh cry me a river. If you're a simpleton that can't grasp it and resolves everything to "poor people will die, have mercy" way, I recommend you educate yourself on a large range of issues of general interest to our society, from politics to economics and sociology. You fucking hippie.
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Au contraire. But it's only the poor that have a problem with it. It's understandable though that you cry about it when you're about to lose a free lunch. The problem is that it's not ethical or fair to pretend that someone else pays it every day, all your life. Also, there's a big difference between entirely nationalised public health systems and semi-private ones where one can choose between the two whilst not breaking the bank. It's not all black or white.

Luthatron, again, you prove yourself an idiot but not understanding that there's absolutely no logical or reasonable connection between experiencing something and debating it. That's where your trolling fails pathetically. If you don't agree with me, bring forward your own objective arguments. If you can't do that, you lost.
i live in the UK, the money i pay in tax goes towards it, i can use the NHS if i need to (which is rare)

you don't live in the UK. you don't contribute, it doesn't effect you at all.

feel free to post pages of bollocks at me while you get more and more angry and post increasingly strange things though.
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you don't live in the UK. you don't contribute, it doesn't effect you at all.
You don't live in Afghanistan, Israel or Iraq, nor did you participated in NATO's or USs military decision making or went on the field, yet you expressed your arguments at length in here. I can go on forever on such examples.

It doesn't affect me, no, but I can express my opinion on it, without retorting to verbal violence and unprovocated attacks towards others. Right ? Be nice.
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You don't live in Afghanistan, Israel or Iraq, nor did you participated in NATO's or USs military decision making or went on the field, yet you expressed your arguments at length in here. I can go on forever on such examples.

It doesn't affect me, no, but I can express my opinion on it, without retorting to verbal violence and unprovocated attacks towards others. Right ? Be nice.
lol are you playing some sort of victim card now?

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You don't live in Afghanistan, Israel or Iraq, nor did you participated in NATO's or USs military decision making or went on the field, yet you expressed your arguments at length in here. I can go on forever on such examples.
but as a UK citizen and with the UK being part of NATO he is a NATO constituent who has (in theory only) a say in the decisions made by NATO through the representative nature of our democracy.

Why do you live? What kind of healthcare?
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Oh cry me a river. If you're a simpleton that can't grasp it and resolves everything to "poor people will die, have mercy" way, I recommend you educate yourself on a large range of issues of general interest to our society, from politics to economics and sociology. You fucking hippie.
Dunno why you're suggesting that people educate themselves when it doesn't seem to have worked for you mate, all you've come out with in this thread is blinkered ideological bullshit.

I've educated myself in all of the above and a couple of other things too. Everything you've said is anachronistic nonsense that has long been discredited by overwhelming evidence.

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Proud NHS doctor here. This bill is going be very damaging to the NHS, for a variety of reasons. Whilst private healthcare firms are capable of doing a good job, the recent PIP breast implant scare has proven that at least some of these firms place profit over patient care.

Simple procedures such as cataract removal operations and hernia repairs will be farmed out to whoever can do them the cheapest. Care quality will doubtless be driven down and medical training in every speciality will suffer as a result. The NHS as it remains will be left with all the non-profitable cases like complex surgery with long recovery time.

Andrew Lansley's closeness to lobbyists is well known (even his fucking wife is a drug company lobbyist) and this whole exercise is simply a way of redistributing tax revenues to big business.

All in all, a nasty business indeed. I don't buy the Tories' promise that this won't result in a two-tier USA-style health care system (which I think is an amoral joke, BTW) and can only be thankful that I live and practise in Scotland, where this isn't happening (yet).

So yeah, everyone should sign this petition.
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