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04-03-2012 02:35 PM
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just the free chorus in nebula murders pretty much everything i've tried. it's a very different sound. would like to be able to afford the lexicons but im not sure they in any way justify the pricetag. i found you have to work them a lot to get them to sit and that's just not cool for the money which is a bit ridiculous for a plugin to begin with.
ive tried the lexicon reverbs mate there not that special tbh i tried the full bundle aswell ( the naitaive reverb bundle) and there great but theres allot better stuff out there for way way way less of the price plus you need to fiddle around with the faders allot to make them sit right like you said they start off with way to much reverb alredy going on and the eq algorhtyhams in the top right dont actually do anything. so yea they no way near justify the price i think its a case of them charging that much because they can for the brand name.
if you want an amazing reverb check out valhall roomreverb its amazing and dead easy to use
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04-03-2012 03:22 PM
I really like Lex Hall, especially the preset deep hall. I only use reverb as a send so its never too much reverb unless it my fault.

I also believe I am partially to blame in that supposedly convolution reverbs are the way to go, but Ive always found them lacking. This might be from my ineptitude rather than the plugins limitation.

Phase mistress and u-he Uhbik-F for me. Phase mistress is in a class of its own imo. Haven't found anything come close to it yet both in sound and control. Uhbik F is good on crazy FX things and has surprisingly fat sound when you work the drive knob.

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04-03-2012 11:37 PM
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No. It makes a decent door stop.

I think it is a waste of money and effort. Digital is MUCH more convenient and cost effective so for it to be worth going analog, it should be something that does a job better than digital can. Since some of the top mixers in the world can't tell the difference between a real 1176 and the plug in emulation, the idea of running your signal through a cheap piece of gear like the ones mentioned in hopes of gaining something over digital is pretty futile.

There is this idea that running your signal into something analog will magically add something but it is a myth. It comes from the days when gear had tubes and transformers which added pleasing characteristics just by running things through them but these days most gear is made of cheap Chinese PCBs where transformers and tubes have been replaced with op amps and solid state chips that cost pennies. Running through this sort of gear doesn't add anything but noise and the degradation from the conversion process. Great analog gear still does amazing things but it has to be pretty special to justify using it over what you can do in the digital realm.
the Aleisis is an extreme musical effect more than anything else. i know you know how it;s used and why, so don't pretend it doesn't have a strong character, regardless of how shit it might be on paper! when you mix everything into it, you get the French Touch. it's as simple as that. you can't fake it and it has *that* sound, love it or hate it.
you then spend ages in post-production getting rid of all the harshness and random spikes it chucks out and maybe mixing in some subtle parallel channels to polish it up further but you just can't get that horrible, biting pump from anywhere else.
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04-04-2012 10:02 AM
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Maybe in the sense that people have used it and made good music but have you ever heard a worse compressor?
yeah, the dbx266xl. Just terrible.

theres a whole area with a quick attack which you justg cant use because it clicks. horribly. ive had several crap compressors and this is the worst. edit including two 3630s at some point!

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04-05-2012 08:48 AM
Sometimes when I crank the ratio up on Abletons compressor I get a crackling noise. I know its not my volume levels peaking. It could be my sound card....or is it just Abletons shitty compressor?
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04-05-2012 11:07 AM
It is the compressor... not only this plugin does that. Seriously don't use ableton plugins if you don't have to, especially not the chorus (!!!!) and the reverb
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04-05-2012 01:47 PM
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It is the compressor... not only this plugin does that. Seriously don't use ableton plugins if you don't have to, especially not the chorus (!!!!) and the reverb
ah i thought all the big boy dnb people swear by abletons stuff lol
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04-05-2012 01:58 PM
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Agreed! Those are the two that always kill me in software. Phasers too actually.
This. Is it really that difficult to program a good chorus or phaser VST? I would pay good money for one, probably better off buying a guitar chorus stomp box now that I think about it.
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This. Is it really that difficult to program a good chorus or phaser VST? I would pay good money for one, probably better off buying a guitar chorus stomp box now that I think about it.
SoundToys PhaseMistress is pretty decent... I can't think of any better software alternatives.
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It is the compressor... not only this plugin does that. Seriously don't use ableton plugins if you don't have to, especially not the chorus (!!!!) and the reverb
Agree about the chorus and reverb, but I haven't had any of these issues with the Ableton compressor. Is it really that poo? Maybe I'm ignorant. What would be an alternative to show me the light?
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