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i swear pendulum have released granite and made a shit video for it just to wind up DoA, and it's worked fucking well!

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social experiment??

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Yes, Pendulum broke DnB into the mainstream music scene... Deal with it. Have a cry because the "underground" genre you loved for years is now enjoyed by a wider group of people.

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erm i think that was made by goldie, roni size & friends..

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In a way. They were big names which brought DnB outta the shadows a bit... but walk down the street and ask random people if they know Pendulum... and then if they know Goldie or Roni Size.

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I would, but by the time they've gone spastic over the word Pendulum, I've carried on walking...

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In a way. They were big names which brought DnB outta the shadows a bit... but walk down the street and ask random people if they know Pendulum... and then if they know Goldie or Roni Size.

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im sure if you ask people on the streets of australia who invented the blues they would tell you jimmy barnes too

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crap tune
crap video

life goes on

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aye not bad. better than most dnb videos which are typically shit. the music aint that bad either. sounds better before the drop tho imo.

Pendulum are better than dnb anyway, i dont blame them breaking away from it considering the sort of cunts that like dnb

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as far as cheesey pop at dnb-speed/rhythm goes the new sugababes-tune is better then this crap

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erm i think that was made by goldie, roni size & friends..

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In a way. They were big names which brought DnB outta the shadows a bit... but walk down the street and ask random people if they know Pendulum... and then if they know Goldie or Roni Size.

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Depends if you ask children or adults.

Pendulolz are nothing but a rock'n'roll adrenaline rush with a break sellotaped over the top. Real D'n'B raises serotonin and causes a range of emotional responses.

Look at a track like Inner City Life and it has meaning, depth , innovation and was way ahead of it's time, it brought in a new genre along with Shy FX and a few other s.

In a year or two Pendulolz will have made their cash and been forgotten but people will still be wanting to hear Goldie, Bukem, PFM and all the innovators. I listened to a recent set from PFM with MC Lady Free and it was a real ride through a pallette of emotions not just a load of blokes shrieking over a synth.

This is not rose tinted nostalgia, there are some great artists creating superb new D'n'B some of them on this board (for example Mistabisha, Brookes Brothers, Fanu).

For me Pendulolz are the evolution of jack shit. How can something that is a rehash of the last x releases be evolving? Good luck to them and I hope they do well but I think they should distance themselves from D'n'B so that the genre doesn't get diluted into pap.

Can we have a separate Pendulolz forum so we can get back to talking about D'n'B?


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Depends if you ask children or adults.

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Pendulum fuckin sold out!! End of story. What a discrace to dnb.

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when does the new album come out? guaranteed loads of haters will miraculously be turned around.....I guess I never thought of Pendulum as saviors of DB or anything, so maybe some of the people in here held them a little too high? Its just good, fun dance music.

off topic....When does the new Upbeats album come out also?

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Pendulum fuckin sold out!! End of story. What a discrace to dnb.

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when does the new album come out?

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what a terrible song boring melody boring beat boring vocals

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Every recent Calyx and Teebee song sounds exactly the fucking same. Over produced un-inspiring mash of sounds.
I like the odd tune here and there, but I can't sit through an entire C&T mix because IT ALL SOUNDS THE SAME.

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Their tunes are no longer for the old DnB crowd... they are out there pulling in more new listeners than anyone else out there (I can confidently say) has ever done before.
I don't think listener wise, one artist has had such a huge influence over the spread of DnB... mainstream or not... more people are listening... some people can't deal with that and get sour.

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okay, i've had just about enough of this.

i don't mind when people aren't particularly fond of our tracks - with every tune we make i go through different stages of loving it and hating it, so i can empathise with pretty much every comment made so far.

the only comments i don't get are the ones saying "we've sold out"...

i define "selling out" as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don't really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).

the only way i think i could have really "sold myself out" is if i had made any more tracks that sounded like vault / another planet / still grey etc. those tunes are cool for what they are, but i've moved on in both my musical taste / influences, and my ambitions for this group...if you want to blame anyone for our change in direction, blame led zeppelin, the shadows, the surf coasters, dead kennedys, dick dale, howlin wolf, weather report, tool, in flames, herb alpert, underoath and all the other stuff i've been listening to instead of drum and bass.

we have fended the vultures off this project so much that it would probably fill a novel if i tried to explain it all. all i'll say is - i wanted to make every single thing we've ever put out. call us "shit" or "clownstep" or photoshop gareth as much as you like - but saying "we sold out" is talking out your ass. i never wanted to make straight up dnb - it was never on the cards.

oh, and by the way - i'm not sure if drum and bass is dead or dying (i've been in the studio / on tour too long to tell) - however, if your genre was flimsy enough to be knocked over by ONE SINGLE RECORDING ARTIST who happened to - god forbid - sell some fucking records for the first time in about 5/6 years, then i'm glad it was us that got to drive the final stake through its stale pig shit heart - and good riddance. wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene think is worth listening to again.

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