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Leendert
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Nice.

NO to little tutorial..

YES to big!

Ah well atleast one of both would be appriciated!

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^^See that cute kitten? See that big gun? Well, if you don't post the tutorial, the kitten will be an ex-kitten - and it'll be your fault. So please save a young cat's life, an innocent cat who should be chasing balls of string and purring contendedly over a bowl of Whiskas - do the decent thing, and post the tutorial!

I don't see no kitten!

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Future One
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That 54 second clip is sick! Have you made the whole track yet?


I'd really like to hear how this is done!

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psp nitro involved ?

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psp nitro?

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JustinTodd
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Location: Vancouver, Canada AIM: VancityJunglist



How to Make Twisty bass in Cubase SX3
- Justin Todd (AIM: VancityJunglist)
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First of all, everything within this tutorial has been discussed on the grid many times. I'm just re-iterating it my own words and adding a few additional techniques.

You'll need some samples before you get started, so if you don't have any, there's going to be some prep work. Basically, any type of sample can be used but for my example I used:

- 2 distorted 808's
- 1 stabby and punchy bass hit with lots of fx and filter modulation ('uhmwaaaa')
- 1 reese at constant pitch
- 1 reese sample with a pitch-bend (+7 or +12 will do)


Step 1: Set up a Cubase Project Template
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I've recently discovered that Cubase project templates really speed up your work flow! This is the hardest step, but luckily it only needs to be done once. Start by making a "Twisty bass" project template:

- Set the project bpm to 170-175

- Create 3 group channels and name them low (150hz lowpass), mid (150hz hipass + 3.5Khz lowpass), high (3.5khz hipass). On the first insert of each channel, add an EQ (I use Sonalksis) and filter each channel appropriately.

- Create another group channel and name it BassMaster. Send low, mid and high to it (0db, prefader). Optionally, you can just send the lo-mid-hi channels directly to your master buss.

- Create 5 audio channels and route each of them to low mid high (0db, prefader). To do this quickly, create 1 audio track with the routings and "Duplicate" it 4 times.

- Create 1 or 2 midi channels. add a couple instances of your favorite bass vsti's (Massive, Z3ta, etc) and route the midi channels to them.

- Save this big mess as a Cubase template.


Here is a diagram to help you visualize whats going on:



Step 2: Make an Initial 4bar "Massline"
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I'm not sure who coined the term "Massline" (FeedingCone?) but I love it! Using all of the samples you collected, start sequencing them. I'm all about melody, but try to forget about it when doing a twisty bline. Think of the bline as if it where a 4 bar percussive loop. You'll need to use volume and eq automation to blend everything together.

During this phase, go f'ing crazy with effects!!
- Phaser+flange+reverb+waveshaping on the High channel,
- chorus+distortion+compression+modulation(antares filter, camelphat3, psp nitro) on mids
- minimal processing on lows. mabye some l2 and compression
- and don't forget individual processing on each of the audio channels
- Once you're done, go back and automate the parameters!!

Now, add some pure sub with your vst. I use it to reinforce any melodic content I may have inadvertently created. Make sure it doesn't clash too much with your existing sub-bass.

There's a good chance you'll sit there looping these 4bars for a while. It'll sound totally sick, but if you give your ears a rest for an hour and listen again, it might sound totally ridiculous! Don't worry about it!! Overcome your fear and just export that beast


Step 3: Use Recycle to Slice your Massline
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Fire up Recycle and slice your freshly exported massline. Try to isolate 808 hits, bass stabs, etc. I've just created a "Masslines" subfolder under my bass sample folder. I'm going to start building a collection of rx2s (excellent source of individual basshits, which can be used to sequence future masslines :) )


Step 4: Create a song using your Massline Rex
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Create a new song using your massline.rx2. Much like drums, you can resequence it for edits to keep things interesting. And if your inital massline sounded shite, you can correct that with a bit of clever resequencing.

Hope this mini-howto helped you!!

Last edited by JustinTodd on 01-29-2007 at 08:52 PM

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Future One
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Thanks a lot for the tutorial mate! The diagram made things really easy to understand.


Cant wait to try this out

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sanakthe
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Will try this out in FL tommorow!


Could you post the distorted 808 kick? I don't have one...


Thanks man

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JustinTodd
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quote:
Originally posted by dj websta
Link is fucked. Wont download the whole file stops at 27 k


arghh yea my webserver is fucked. I put up a version on myspace (1st song in player titled "Supernatural")

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JustinTodd
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quote:
Originally posted by sanakthe
Will try this out in FL tommorow!


Could you post the distorted 808 kick? I don't have one...


Thanks man



Im at work, but ill post both 808s when i get home

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sanakthe
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Take your time

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arke
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Was gonna make a separate thread but its not that good i think so i might as well add here since it would probably work very well as part of JustinTodd's technique

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8...5824/filthy.mp3

Synthesizer:
- dial up 2 detuned sawtooths (standard)
- add a pulse waveform
- throw on one of the LFOs modulating the pulse width
- keep the modulation within about 90%-100% duty cycle of the pulse width

Effects:
- load up an EQ, cut a wide chunk out of the middle spectrum, boost some of the low mids

Resample!

Sampler:
- Nothing special here

Effects:
- chorus (I used Kjaerhus Classic)
- Distortion ... best is taking a waveshaper and just adjusting the curve slope to taste.
- EQ .... sweep a peak to find the sweetspot (in the 1500-5000 range usually), boost that a bit, cut some of the low bass.

Done!

..... yes, I suck, I know.

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sonicstu
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cheers for this man appreciate when someone takes the time and effort to share a technique.

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noice one, will give this ago

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dj websta
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Still not working. Can someone ghost this link for me? Im interested..

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JustinTodd
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does the myspace work?

www.myspace.com/justindnb

first track in player titled supernatural

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Yes it does !
And great job for the tutorial

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dj websta
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quote:
Originally posted by JustinTodd
does the myspace work?

www.myspace.com/justindnb

first track in player titled supernatural



Nope

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