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Some people learn by mimicing. What's the harm in it? You get to learn what does what and how to achieve different parts of a sound. You could argue that people won't want to create a new sound after learning how to Skrillex Bass, but then you'd be ignoring human innovation and ingenuity. Someone could always learn how to create different effects to combine and make something new via trial and error, or they could learn a few things from other people to add to their own knowledge.
Might be a bit odd to compare, but supposedly da Vinci's apprentice copied Vinci's Mona Lisa. There's always (intellectual) value in mimicry--it's how we learn.
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The thing is, lots of people are making bass sounds like Skrillex quite successfully. Kill the Noise and Porter Robinson come imediatly to mind, as well as many others signed to Skrillex's Owsla label.
I think it's wrong to compare these sounds to Neurofunk sounds (like Noisia, Phace and Billain), which are a lot more difficult to recreate and in my mind, a lot more interesting sounding. |
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It might be purely taste, but I find neuro sounds to be so much better quality than his sounds. I think there are insanely good sounds by dubstep and techno producers too which outmatch his technically in so many levels (speaking clarity wise and dynamically, production) Tell me, how did THEY do it? Why are people zoning on Skrillex' SMANS? One theory comes to mind.. because he's a super famous person now and there are so many fanboys flocking to these sites and youtube to try and figure out the song that's been implanted in their brain by radio play. And it also gives the people making these super shit tutorials a lot of subs and followers right off the bat. I'm not saying you guys fall into this category, just the general mass. Just a theory. Goes back to my point earlier too, tones of people can make insane sounds, it's how you apply them musically which is the most difficult thing imo. However, I disagree that you can't compare his sound to a neuro sound, as they both have very similar sonic prints. I always think, what would someone who knows nothing about music technically say if you asked them this question... liiiike most of the fanboys who crowed around this issue... or (and I love her with all my heart) my girlfriend..They'd say yeah, sounds very similar. We know that neuro bass is boss in every single way though, and I think it is technically superior, but that doesn't stop it from being similar. I understand people like different things too and hey you might like Skrillex over Spor or Qo.. That's clearly your prerogative. Just speaking from a technical view here. |
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And i've never heard Skrillex on the radio. |
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I've got similar sounds loading up NI's Massive (not a fan of that plugin either, but w/e). Check this vid out and follow along. Some tweaking afterward will ensure that sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5-5KOGsqo
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the skrillex cinema bass for massive made it a while ago took me 5 mins http://www.mediafire.com/?775b2zv7y6pkuhp http://www.mediafire.com/?90j9t6amo4mkzja (ksd) Last edited by joemaki; 02-08-2012 at 04:40 PM.. |
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The only thing I can say with 100% certainty is that <b>it is impossible</b> to recreate the sound. It would be like you randomly applying a million FX and parameters at random, reverb, phase, flange ect ect. bouncing the sound out, deleting all the files and after forgetting everything trying to do it again exactly how you did it before. It's just too complex a wave form to recreate and unless you know 100% the steps he took to create it you will never be able to do it. Never. That's why he can't do it obviously. Continue to try and get the sound, you will fail, might come up with something completely awesome like so many other people but you will still fail to get the sound your looking for. You'll hear his song and you'll be like "shit, nothing like it." No matter what. End of story Last edited by Kizza; 02-08-2012 at 07:19 PM.. |
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What I find crazy and mind boggling, is the amount of people who are able to waste their time shitting walls of text about their opinions about "why are so many people asking how to make the skrillex/pendusnare sounds, yawn and baws". |
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lol i cant believe you added up my quotes relating to the topic and then posted about wasting time, when adding no point to the thread and having no opinion yourself. Talk about irony and being hypocritical.
To keep this shit going is to ask "but how do i saw this piece of wood" with a saw in your hand. You have the stuff, you know what is used. Go make something awesome, you'll never cut it the exact same way as the last guy. That's precisely what makes music so fun engaging and great. |
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