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01-31-2012 05:19 PM
Increasing the power of a sound without distorting it.
My current road block.

In tunes, I hear, say an 808. It sounds heavy, it's thick, but the one thing that it isn't, is distorted.

So far, getting a nice sound to sound really full and sits up in the mix without it sounding distorted is killing me.

I did try subtle distorting, and compression. EQ, but either I'm missing something, or I just don't have the right recipe (if you will) right.

Anyone come across anything similar? Mind pointing me in the right direction?
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01-31-2012 09:19 PM
I had the same problem.

Its about sample selection.

Some samples sound better then others.

You have to look around.

Sample the sounds that you like.

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02-01-2012 11:47 AM
its all about how the sound works with everything else in the mix. no point in randomly compressing a sound unless you know why you want to compress it. At the end of the day its about which frequencies occupy what space.

Edit: dont think I read the post properly.

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02-01-2012 12:48 PM
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My current road block.

In tunes, I hear, say an 808. It sounds heavy, it's thick, but the one thing that it isn't, is distorted.

So far, getting a nice sound to sound really full and sits up in the mix without it sounding distorted is killing me.

I did try subtle distorting, and compression. EQ, but either I'm missing something, or I just don't have the right recipe (if you will) right.

Anyone come across anything similar? Mind pointing me in the right direction?
chorus on FX send (not direct) to widen it up and add a bit of colour?
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02-01-2012 12:55 PM
i don't understand your problem.

can you re-phrase the problem, it's a bit open to interpretation at the moment.
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could you please make an example? Maybe it would then be easier to understand
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i don't understand your problem.

can you re-phrase the problem, it's a bit open to interpretation at the moment.




Wip tune I"m doing. The second bass, heard at 1:40 isn't around the same level in volume (or RMS?) as the first. Solo, it sounds great, but with everything else, it tends to loose power. If I increase the volume even more, the bass clips.

In tunes from other artists, The 808's and such basses are very defined and sounds great in the mix.

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Or This


Notice second bass at 2:15. Sub line is powerful in my opinion. Doesn't drown out when the other elements of the tune are still playing.


That's my problem. Trying to make my sublines stand along side the other elements of the tune, yet they do not. And if I try and increase anything, the subs end up clipping.
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leave more headroom and frequency space for the bass
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02-01-2012 07:48 PM
yup, louder doesnt always mean more powerful. you need more definition on the attack and space for the tail to be a bit quieter or you wont get the punch. limiting/zero attack compression with slow release can help do the trick in these instances.
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