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02-01-2012 09:29 PM
Would I have to tweak the rest of the elements? Is there any compromises that I would have to be aware of?
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Would I have to tweak the rest of the elements? Is there any compromises that I would have to be aware of?
well my ears tell me you could fix it by sticking a transient designer (flux one works well for me atm) on there and maybe saturating slightly. that should make the whole mix open up a bit and you can take it from there.
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02-03-2012 02:06 AM
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Wip tune I"m doing. The second bass, heard at 1:40 isn't around the same level in volume (or RMS?) as the first. Solo, it sounds great, but with everything else, it tends to loose power. If I increase the volume even more, the bass clips.


reduce the the lows of the sound or sounds which interfere with the sub in this part, that's the way to go
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02-03-2012 02:10 AM
Didnt really read through the thread, but try adding more voices (adding copies of the same sound with variances in pitch, panning, amplitude, etc.)
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02-03-2012 03:50 AM
found printing to tape to be the one for getting any sound to stick out like a sore thumb in a digital mixdown. doesn't have to be anything super fancy, just a decent clean chrome cassette on good heads recorded as loud as possible but without that noticeable watery tape distortion (if your deck can record at twice the speed without any machine noise/whine leaking thru into the signal so much the better). put the results back into the DAW and it has a really interesting presence compared to everything else. use it for your weakest sounds, such as crap vocals, tinny hihats, bollocks snares, midrangey patches that sound too digitally and thin etc.
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Wip tune I"m doing. The second bass, heard at 1:40 isn't around the same level in volume (or RMS?) as the first. Solo, it sounds great, but with everything else, it tends to loose power. If I increase the volume even more, the bass clips.

That's my problem. Trying to make my sublines stand along side the other elements of the tune, yet they do not. And if I try and increase anything, the subs end up clipping.
2 things

Your bass sound is like a feather. light and soft, and with much air. If you dont like that, rip off each effect that gives it too much room (reverb, stereoexpander, flangers, chorus,.... dont know what you run) , and start to place it in the mix again. (you can also do that at a second track and just mix booth as you wish to.
If you already processed it like that, i would just make it mono (i do that more often than you would think), eq+ the lower mids, and try to give it room in the mix by eqing in the bass spectrum. (the subbass, or realease of the kick, dont hear it exactly, takes way to much room from you bass hit)

The next thing is, you could use sidechaining. Very soft.

You dont need more attack, or compression or loudness, you just lost too much substance with so much room.

You can also try to pitch it just veery fine. If 1200 = an octave just try -10 -20 -30 -40 and +30 +50 +70 etc. Sometimesit has a good effect on the mix.

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€ and what i want you to mention.... its easier to judge a mixdown in youtube quality cause everything is in the same place at 128kb ^^ (dont know how to explain it, but try it out)

€² you said without distortion, i feel like cabinet filters can give you sometimes what a distortion does, without distorting try that out aswell.
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02-03-2012 07:40 PM
Thanks for the input everyone! Really appreciate it!
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