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02-27-2012 07:41 PM
You can find leftover metadata in some Vengeance packs every now and then. See posts in other forums for example:

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I didn't have much time this morning but i managed to very quickly find 7 full rips by just going through VEH1 for about 10 mins. I found many many more while browsing through but these tracks i am about to post were the only ones i had at hand on my personal computer. The files can be downloaded below:

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VEH release date: 4th November 2005.


Rip 1 = Bodyrockers I like the way (junior jack remix) 28 Feb 2005. Compared to VEH1 house Loop 040.

Rip 2 = Eric Prydz - Woz Not Woz released 2004. Compared to VEH1 House Loop 097.

Rip 3 = Hardsoul - Back Together, released 2003. Compared to VEH1 House Loop 032.

Rip 4 = Mambana - Libre (axwell mix), released 2003. Compared to VEH1 House Loop 035.

Rip 5 = Freaks - The Creeps (steve bug remix), released 2003. Compared to VEH1 House Loop 069.

Rip 6 = Stonebridge - Put em high. Released 2003. Compared to VEH1 House Loop 154.

Rip 7 = Ueberschall House Musique Sample library Syn127shot_phever. Released 2002/2003. Compared to VEH1 FX 29.
Also on a side note, their fame is quite weird considering they sound like they do. I mean, I could prolly get better quality samples if i were to record drums from a damaged 8 betamax cassette with a cheap mic in a subway station.
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thats why i buy the bhk sample pack.
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02-27-2012 07:47 PM
doood.

some of the vengeance samples are mp3's converted back into wavs. they probably download the tunes from youtube to sample, chop out the drums then convert to wav.

some proppa gems in there though, just gotta sift through the crap.
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02-27-2012 09:38 PM
Oh yeah i got a snar e from Britney Spears
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02-27-2012 09:48 PM
Working on a sample pack 100% self recorded and synthesized. Shameless self plug - But I can tell you it's pretty unique ;)

The trick for me was to treat the samples as if they were in a mix already.

Vengeance samples are, let's face it, pretty nice. Mostly because of all the processing that was already in place from the song they ripped it off.

I emulated this, but without the dodgy cuts. No unwanted hi hats and crashes. No cowbells in the background ;)
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02-28-2012 05:43 AM
Such practices are all over the place in the sample biz, if you bought these packs and feel cheated i would send them a mail and let them know about. Who knows, maybe they get a license from these artists and sample pack company's. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i never heard about any copyright issue in the past because of this.

Look, in reality when you purchase a sample pack, you pay for the work the producer had to make these samples, and for nothing else. See it as a service. All other is more than less a big bubble.

So be it all is made from scratch or searching for usable bits in any allowed tunes, its still work you don't have anymore and it helps you to focus more on the musical part of producing.
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So be it all is made from scratch or searching for usable bits in any allowed tunes, its still work you don't have anymore and it helps you to focus more on the musical part of producing.
false. we here at the grid need to spend more time on the secret vst plugins skrillex uses to get his bass sounds
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Did nobody tell you about RIFF-WAV?
no, no one ever did. I hold you responsible. why didn't you tell me before you bastard!
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false. we here at the grid need to spend more time on the secret vst plugins skrillex uses to get his bass sounds
Haha! :)

God forbid anyone should forget about what other producers techniques are and what samples they use! This could result in people actually creating something with character and personality... then the scene is doomed!
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02-28-2012 10:22 AM
i don't really know how people can use vengeance snares, they sound like whitenoise converted to 64kbs mp3 with a limiter and exciter over them.
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