Rush is a fat piece of shit, but he has a point. It's not taxpayer money, but employee contribution. You pay into your company's healthcare program with pre-taxed contributions. I see birth control the same way I see cosmetic surgery. Yes, there are side benefits to contraception for some women, but I don't think healthcare providers, even those farming out company coverages, should be made to pay for it. Nothing penis/vagina related, unless it's a life threatening condition. My healthcare contribution is already inordinately big relative to my salary. I don't even use it. I am healthy, dont wear glasses and dont have kids. Anything that can keep prices down, I am all for.

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Originally posted by livewiredj
lol man thats the kinda thing that just makes you close a browser window entirely
"they're both a couple of nancy boy ******s who look like potatos"

Actually many women take birth control for non birth control reasons. I took the pill for years not to prevent pregnancies but because of polyovarian cysts. Indeed, the "slut" law student in question was actually speaking about birth control AS an aspect of health care

More to the point, Americans are being force to buy health insurance. We are not talking about the government giving out freebies, but rather we will have to pay into this health care. And why the fuck should I pay for health care that isn't providing what I need? Again, none of you men are address the actually cost of birth control. The "slut" law student who take birth control for health reasons (not that that's more valide but you men dont' seem to understand what all BC is used for) said it will cost her 3k a year. Now if I'm being force to buy health insurance by my government and then government says that hey, big pharma you can charge whatever you want, and then says, hey insurance plans, you don't have to cover birth control AT ALL, what the hell am I paying for? I don't get sick much; rarely go to the doctor; the only ailment I have is seasonal allergies which I can control through non big pharm menas. So my ONLY concern is that I don't get pregnant...why should I NOT get a some help with birth control? How am I costing anybody more money? I'm fit, my heart rate is something ridiculous like 55, I don't smoke, I eat well, WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I BE DENIED REASONABLY PRICE BC JUST BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN? Because you men think I will go out a fuck every Dick, Johnson and Peter?

Birth control is NOT the same as cosmetic surgery. If someone doesn't get plastic surgery, s/he just doens't conform to whatever whacked physical aesthetic. If a woman doesn't have good birth control, she gets A BABY!!! The baby takes over the woman's immune system, like a parasite might, and for the next really ten months, everything a woman does affects the fetus. And the woman gets to push something the six of a basketball out her vagina and then raise it for the next 18 years. Seriously, how is birth control like plastic surgery?

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what about a condition that is not "life threatening" but makes your dick fall off while leaving the rest of your body unharmed?
would you change your opinion if you had such a condition and suddenly lost your income, i.e. couldn't afford the medical treatment?

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I think you are missing a very important step or two.

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Again, a woman is just suppose to not have sex if she's poor. I get it...only men should be able to have sex without impunity because that's what God wants

Got it; I'll go back to my kitchen and wait for some man to make an honest woman of me. And I'll only have sex for procreation purposes and I won't even enjoy it becasue really only men deserve to orgasms

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wtf are you on about? Why not further derail the topic by mentioning possible alien abductions? I do realise the pill can ease some chronic conditions, but what percentage of women are using it for that purpose? Most of the women I know hate the side effects of birth control pills. There are many ways to avoid pregnancy. It's not like semen is everywhere, like high fructose corn syrup. I maintain, your employer is under no obligation to help you manage your sex life.

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Originally posted by livewiredj
lol man thats the kinda thing that just makes you close a browser window entirely
"they're both a couple of nancy boy ******s who look like potatos"

you are avoiding my question. i take it you don't want to answer it because it would show a crucial flaw in your argument?
if not so, just answer it: would you change your opinion if you were in the position of needing what you think nobody should be entitled to?

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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Women's reproductive health/rights should be decided among women, not men. As a man, I'm mortified that it's men who make the decisions about what's best for women. What right does a man have to dictate what a woman can or can't do with her body?

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No one said that. The point is that " Oh I forgot to take my pill! Now I'm preggos!" is misleading and nonsensical. It doesn't just "happen". YOU have to actually go through the actions of having unprotected sex (usually). I guess poor people can't take responsibility?

It seems like you don't get anything because no one said or implied that. You are projecting some bizarre issues of your own. You make men out to be some horrible monsters that have no consequences to their actions but although women are the ones to carry the child, men are left with ZERO choice when it comes to pregnancy. If you get pregnant and we don't want to go through with the pregnancy...no choice. If you get pregnant, you want an abortion and we don't...no choice. If you decide to go through with the pregnancy that we don't want... on the hook financially for 18 years. SO yeah, don't make it sound as if we just get to do what we want with "impunity". That is fantasy land nonsense.

That sounds like an uphill battle tbh.

How about taking some personal responsibility? I know that concept is lost on most people today but society would be a much better place if people could sort that out. It isn't anyone else's responsibility to make sure you don't get pregnant and it isn't anyone els's responsibility to pay for your birth control! There are plenty of cheap or even free ways to practice safe sex or acquire birth control. The problem is that it takes a tiny bit of initiative. No one is going to drop them on your door step and do it for you so I guess that is out right?

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