Nothing to do with lack of a father figure then?

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bullshit baffles brains

I grew up without a father and I seem to be ok!!!!

Good points in the articles tbh, a lot of middle class kids feel pretty entitled about everything and aint very grounded.

There were a hell of a lot of these kids taking advantage in the riots but all we hear about are bad working class parents or cliches about lack of father figures (cos all the rioters were black ya know, and black people dont have father figures).

for example that girl driving her mates about in the riots.

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lets stop all this anti-irish potato stuff

Olden days? how far back are you talking?

It was like this at my school, and that was 10+ years ago.

The only solution that worked (for the school) was to just expel the trouble makers.

obv. not great for the guys who get expelled though

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is there any stats supporting this or is it just a stereotype?

exactly mate, it's just a generalisation

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lets stop all this anti-irish potato stuff

tbh who needs stats when you just have to look at the cctv footage

i caught the end of something on the bbc last night about young people and gangs, and one of the main points was that young black men don't have many aspirational figures. this kid was asked a question along the lines of "what successful professions can young black men aspire to by looking at what older black guys are doing" and the answer was basically "be a footballer", so i think it is true to an extent, for young black guys anyway. this can almost be highlighted by beckham being voted britain's greatest black man or whatever farcical shit it was that happened a few years ago.

but on topic, people don't have enough discipline these days, i agree. i think i said this another thread but parents expect schools to instil discipline in their kids where it should actually be the parents. it's not like kids should go to school and then that's the end of their learning for the day, it should continue at home. i know it's easy to say but i come from an extended family of teachers and they all complain about how much parents expect them to teach their kids, basically parents shirking responsibility and being the good cop while school is bad cop.

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