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05-28-2012 08:43 PM
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If you have a high enough oscillator frequency, you could have a C1 note that hits in the 500hz range, or basically any frequency range your little heart desires.
Well it's not a C1 anymore then is it
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The problem for me, (especially on this forum) is that numerous times people have talked about musical notes, but never mention the synthesizer oscillator frequency. If you have a high enough oscillator frequency, you could have a C1 note that hits in the 500hz range, or basically any frequency range your little heart desires. Are you guys using some sort of standard synthesizer oscillator frequency that I'm unaware of for reference? Or are you missing this fact all together?
it's just normal pitch, what a band would tune to or an orchestra or the default tuning for a synth.

http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

C1 is 32.70 hz.

if the oscillator isn't playing 32.70hz it's not C1.

you can detune the synth and trigger what you think is C1 on the keyboard, but you've detuned it - it's not C1.

if you play 500hz it's not C1. you could sample a 500 hz tone and load it on a sampler on the note C1 - it's still not C1.

edit: think about an out of tune guitar. you may think you are playing E3 on it but you aren't as it's out of tune. it looks like it's E3, you fret the correct note but it's out of tune, so you aren't actually playing E3

more edits; i'm not saying that you should never use C1 i think i phrased some of the earlier posts badly, just that it's getting a bit too low around there as the frequency is so slow, it sounds OK (just) on my big headphones but it's not really audible on cheapo in ear jobbies.
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05-28-2012 10:29 PM
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it's just normal pitch, what a band would tune to or an orchestra or the default tuning for a synth.

http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

C1 is 32.70 hz.

if the oscillator isn't playing 32.70hz it's not C1.

you can detune the synth and trigger what you think is C1 on the keyboard, but you've detuned it - it's not C1.

if you play 500hz it's not C1. you could sample a 500 hz tone and load it on a sampler on the note C1 - it's still not C1.

edit: think about an out of tune guitar. you may think you are playing E3 on it but you aren't as it's out of tune. it looks like it's E3, you fret the correct note but it's out of tune, so you aren't actually playing E3

more edits; i'm not saying that you should never use C1 i think i phrased some of the earlier posts badly, just that it's getting a bit too low around there as the frequency is so slow, it sounds OK (just) on my big headphones but it's not really audible on cheapo in ear jobbies.
Thanks for clarifying. What kind of headphones do you use?
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05-30-2012 11:17 PM
30hz is not too low for sub, although many sound engineers high pass their systems at 35hz or even 40hz (which sounds very thin to me)
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05-31-2012 02:59 AM
A 30hz low cut is normal. A 30hz hi pass is not. Etcetcetc
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05-31-2012 04:20 AM
I remember when I was looking at the remix stems for BMT's All or Nothing and the bass had some very low G (24.50 Hz) notes. When I first heard the tune I honestly though there was something weird going on, and only when I got the stems did I realize, but I think they pulled it off in top form: the saturation lets you know that there is a low note there, but I couldn't hear the sub at all. Could be my gear, could be the master who knows. So low notes are possible, although if you get something like a saw down that low it just sounds like garbage. Sin + saturation is the only way to go.
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Just sounds like what waves maxx bass does.
This is exactly what I thought as well... read the maxx bass page over at waves website.... sounds just like the OP's description.
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