Location: Cornwall

pads/strings/general "ambience"

right, i was just wondering if anyone had any tips for getting decent sounding pads or strings. i usually find a sample of something and run it through some sort of a filter with either an envelope or synced lfo thing goin on. i sometimes run them through some sort of chorus/flanger or something to spice em up a bit. they dont sound bad, but theyre not particularly exciting.
what i wanna know is if anyone can give me foolproof advice on sampling sounds for pad/synth-type sounds and how to maybe spot such samples. if anyone could give me some basic pad synthesis advice that would be cool too.
thanks,
furious

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the orange vocoder can give some interesting results.

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the orange vocoder can give some interesting results.

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Sample a movie with a really orchestral score, like from the 50's or somthin'. The ultimate pad synths I think are the Korg Wavestation and the Kawai K500S.

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ORANGE vocoder? you got anywhere i can dl this or get some info?
thanks man...

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try downloading it from the ftp morpheus...
http://www.prosoniq.com/
check the spec here...or even buy it if u want lol

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Try this:
Snag a short sample (really short, that short u could not use it as a 'real sample', mot longer than a quarter note) of such a decent pad (I got some from Pink floyd-tracks) and then set up a nice patch in a grain-synth (Granulab, crusher X or some Reaktor-ensembles).
Use obscure sources 4 this!
It may take some Time to get a seemless sound, but it works!
Then twist it and run it through Filters/ Vocoders/ chorus/ weird things and you can achieve sounds From synthetic 'Goldie' style to morphing metalic alien dogs on acid )

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A good way to get really interresting sounds is to take a random sound, reverb it to fuck, take a snippet of the reverb tail, compress, loop, process (filter, phase, flanger, layer etc) and voila you've got a nice string/pad/ambient effect depending on how you processed it along the way. The cool thing about this technique is you've got absolute control all of the way and can shape the sound however you want.

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I'm gonna let out the secret for how to create alien like dark atmosperic textures in sound forge...

Get a sample, any sample over 2 seconds long will do... different samples will create distinctly different sound textures.. I find female vocal accapella's to be great for teebee like sci fi alien textures..

Load it in sound forge or cool edit or anything that timestretches...

timestretch the fuck outta it... make it 500% longer then 500% shorter... and keep doing this about 10 times.. experiment with different timestretch settings... after a while you'll notice the original sample start to disappear and sum wierd shit replace it... sum amazing sounds can be created... the dark intros to 90% of my tracks were done exactly like this and Ive never had a bad result from this technique.......

Then use your ear to make the final small judgements... for example if you think it's a bit high pitched then pitchbend it... if you think it doesnt have enuff bass then EQ it...

Another technique is to get a granular synthesis program and feed it a shitload of samples and watch it take it's course.. the best one for this I have found is CrusherX Live which is a live MIDI capable granular synthesis module.. that way you can control it from your sequencer in real time if you feel the need... I havent been able to get much useful from this but those into more experimental drum n bass may find sum great oppurtunities in granular synthesis...

anyway thats my tip for this week...

EZ
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well, i didn't make this one up... cheers to static!
thought it would be helpful

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has anybody tried that technique that static talks of????

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thanks a lot for all your help people, i really appreciate it. i suppose i should have waited til i get my proper computer back before i posted this but i guess it saves me waiting around!
some interesting methods on here that im certainly gonna give a go. ill try to let you know how i get on (perhaps in audio form if i ever bother to finish a fucking tune!).
by the way i think ive tried the timestretching process, i seem to remember getting shit results, although this was in my brand nu amatuer days (not that id call myself pro now mind). ill try it again actually and see if what i can come up with is any better...
thanks peoples, oh and keep em comin!

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Atmospheric and ambient noise
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I'm gonna let out the secret for how to create alien like dark atmosperic textures in sound forge...

Get a sample, any sample over 2 seconds long will do... different samples will create distinctly different sound textures.. I find female vocal accapella's to be great for teebee like sci fi alien textures..

Load it in sound forge or cool edit or anything that timestretches...

timestretch the fuck outta it... make it 500% longer then 500% shorter... and keep doing this about 10 times.. experiment with different timestretch settings... after a while you'll notice the original sample start to disappear and sum wierd shit replace it... sum amazing sounds can be created... the dark intros to 90% of my tracks were done exactly like this and Ive never had a bad result from this technique.......

Then use your ear to make the final small judgements... for example if you think it's a bit high pitched then pitchbend it... if you think it doesnt have enuff bass then EQ it...

Another technique is to get a granular synthesis program and feed it a shitload of samples and watch it take it's course.. the best one for this I have found is CrusherX Live which is a live MIDI capable granular synthesis module.. that way you can control it from your sequencer in real time if you feel the need... I havent been able to get much useful from this but those into more experimental drum n bass may find sum great oppurtunities in granular synthesis...

anyway thats my tip for this week...

EZ
Static

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thought it would be helpful

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Does anyone know how to use the Prosoniq Orange Vocoder in Buzz so that it you can dynamicly change the note on the keyboard the plug-in uses?

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no but you can (in cubase i could) disable the synth function and run a carrier in the left channel in the right channel.

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has anybody tried that technique that static talks of????

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good thread here.
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A good way to get really interresting sounds is to take a random sound, reverb it to fuck, take a snippet of the reverb tail, compress, loop, process (filter, phase, flanger, layer etc) and voila you've got a nice string/pad/ambient effect depending on how you processed it along the way. The cool thing about this technique is you've got absolute control all of the way and can shape the sound however you want.

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hmmm i might give try to this , thx pyro

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