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when doing a rough master on your tracks


does anyone use bandpass too cut below 35 and above... um ...where treble sounds like shit...lol?

if yes is there any bad side effects too doin it after final compression?
or is it better to do it before you use compresion?

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personally no i dont/wouldnt:

- i would do my low-cuts on a per-channel basis whilst engineering/mixing;
- i have never lowpassed a track because my treble sounded shit... better off fixing the treble i reckon! or again, lowpass on a per-channel basis

if i was going to use a bandpass over a master this way i'd def do it before compression, otherwise the compressor will react to the low-freq (high energy) stuff that you're just about to remove, which is pointless.

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personally no i dont/wouldnt:

- i would do my low-cuts on a per-channel basis whilst engineering/mixing;
- i have never lowpassed a track because my treble sounded shit... better off fixing the treble i reckon! or again, lowpass on a per-channel basis

if i was going to use a bandpass over a master this way i'd def do it before compression, otherwise the compressor will react to the low-freq (high energy) stuff that you're just about to remove, which is pointless.

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good points
although I generally do hi pass on the master at around 20 - 30..
and also hi pass anything which doesnt need a low end individually...

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Most speakers dont reproduce any freqs below 30-40Hz and above 17-18khz so when u cut it out from your track then the rest of what is left will be reproduced by the speakers with higher energy and precision. So it's good.

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30-40hz us generally just wafty, wasted energey. I don't see any harm with HPing a tune @ 30h\, although as hipnotic says, do ur HP and LPing in the mix, let the mastering engineer sort the rest out

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30-40hz is where the proper lowdown sub freqeuncies live, why in gods name would you want to roll them off


Its like Dillinja says. When he used to get his tunes mastered the engineers would do a roll off at 40hz and all of a sudden loads of low notes would dissapear from the tune.

Go and play a 30hz sine through a sub bass woofer its where the PROPER sub bass lives.

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30-40hz us generally just wafty, wasted energey. I don't see any harm with HPing a tune @ 30h\, although as hipnotic says, do ur HP and LPing in the mix, let the mastering engineer sort the rest out

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30-40hz is where the proper lowdown sub freqeuncies live, why in gods name would you want to roll them off


Its like Dillinja says. When he used to get his tunes mastered the engineers would do a roll off at 40hz and all of a sudden loads of low notes would dissapear from the tune.

Go and play a 30hz sine through a sub bass woofer its where the PROPER sub bass lives.

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Have u ever used a B0 bass note (30,87Hz) in any of your tunes? 40Hz is to high for dnb but 30Hz is ok imo.

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So obviously Teebee wouldn't even feel it on his subwoofer.

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So obviously Teebee wouldn't even feel it on his subwoofer.

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My sub goes down to 19hz.




Plus you dont need to have a super low fundamental to get those really low harmonics.


An 808 kick with a 60hz fundamental will put out some serious dynamics right down to the cutoff point of the sub.



And yes, Teebee, "The Shape Of Things To Come" on the Valve was flexing some serious low down biznizz

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what???My sub goes to 16hz....
All my bass is hipassed at 20hz.pretty much the REAL beefy bass is around 30hz
play valve once and youŽll c what i mean

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Oh, I remember reading somewhere that your subs are hipassed at 28Hz

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But still the truth is that most speakers and many PA's won't actually go down that low, and it only makes audible frequencies less clear...

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Plus you dont need to have a super low fundamental to get those really low harmonics.


An 808 kick with a 60hz fundamental will put out some serious dynamics right down to the cutoff point of the sub.

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Oh, I remember reading somewhere that your subs are hipassed at 28Hz

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But still the truth is that most speakers and many PA's won't actually go down that low, and it only makes audible frequencies less clear...

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