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yewbic
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FL Parametric EQ 2 (interface mod)

I really like using this EQ for making precision cuts and also because it has 7 bands you can freely change the type of band and all that.

but mostly cause it has that spectrum backing you can choose to view the output spectrum or the input spectrum, I usually always have it on input but one thing I didnt really like was how saturated the interface looked and how the spectrum was kinda interfered with by the interface design..

Recently I've been modding the Interface of my FL Studio and Edison spectrum.. and thought "I wonder if i can edit the spectrum of the Parametric EQ 2" well not only can you edit the gradient of the spectrum but you can actually edit the interface itself.

so what i did basically was just level out the brights, mids, and highs on the interface and removed the section that overlays the spectrum so you can see it real clearly, here's a before and after shot of the EQ.






instructions on how to install on next post:

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how to install:

so what you have to do is go into: (I dont know where your FL is installed but mine was found at):

C:\Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 7\Plugins\Fruity\Effects\Fruity Parametric EQ 2\Artwork\

and you'll find 3 files:
"About.png"
"Back.bmp"
"Spectrum.bmp"


Rename the file called "Back.bmp" to something like "Back_original.bmp" and then download and unzip the image i zipped in this post below and copy the image that was zipped into that folder it should replace "Back.bmp" so rename the original first, just incase you dont like it you can delete the one I made and rename the original back to "Back.bmp". Should be simple as that.

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Nice on mate.

I don't know why they didn't do it like that to start with.

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quote:
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Nice on mate.

I don't know why they didn't do it like that to start with.



no prob. yeah this feels like a whole new EQ to me now, lol.


just a bump incase some peeps missed this one.

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cheers yewbic, you are the master of colouring in!!

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cheers mate, can see things a lot clearer now

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cool - very useful.

that eq is nice but watch out - the overall cutoff isn't as much as you get with waves eq - lets alot of stuff through...

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quote:
Originally posted by mercian
Nice on mate.

I don't know why they didn't do it like that to start with.



This is FL we're talking about, they tend to ignore the entire suggestions forum

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quote:
Originally posted by philmac
cool - very useful.

that eq is nice but watch out - the overall cutoff isn't as much as you get with waves eq - lets alot of stuff through...



right on.

It's funny that you mention this cause earlier today I was taking a look at the manual and read a bit on that EQ.. I found out that the little dot or dots underneath the filter type selection actually control the filter slope depth... I thought that shit was only for decoration, lol.. check it straight from the manual:

quote:
Band Type & Filter Slope Selectors - Note that the upper section shows different shapes with dots below each shape. Band Type: Left-click and drag up/down to change the filter type between OFF, Low Pass, Band Pass, Notch, Low Shelf, Peaking, High Shelf. Filter Slope: By left-clicking on the dot(s) below each band shape and moving your mouse up/down you can select between orders 1 to 4 (for Low/Highpass the orders are 12, 18, 24 and 48 dB/Octave, for other filter types they are the number of instances of the filter).


I was just running some tests right now real quick to see the differences between cuts on the waves renaissance EQ and this FL para EQ 2.. The FL parametric EQ 2's slope actually looks a bit steeper than the ren EQ i was seeing cuts down at around -60dB with the FL and only about -40 to -50 dB with the waves ren. Comparing how they sound is a completely different matter, lol.. but then again I hardly ever boost with an EQ.. and when I do.. i take out the best sounding EQ(to my ears) that I have.. either Angel tone or a few from the URS models.. But i use different EQ's for different purposes.. FL parametric EQ 2 is still my dedicated high Q resonance cutter. and the EQ in Edison is pretty amazing too.. lol I be making some crazy ass sine-wave shape curves on that.. haha.

here's a screenshot of where the filter slope dots are on the EQ, i just found this out earlier, lol. thats a bassline reese im high passing btw it had alot of low end.

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Looks great, thanks for the info!

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thanks it looks great !!
@ yewbic
how did you change edison aspect ? just looked into its artworks but i don't have find a background image or something , just the pannel picture though

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I would appreciate a decent tutorial on using this plugin, the one in the FL bible is useless

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quote:
Originally posted by yewbic
here's a screenshot of where the filter slope dots are on the EQ, i just found this out earlier, lol.


Mhh.. I tought people on the Grid known stuff like this..

Edit: Thanks for the mod. Just tryed it out and it works better even if you just use 0% width you see it and hear it.

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Thanks for the background redo yewbic, seeing things much clearer now :-)

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quote:
Originally posted by Vonbrucken
thanks it looks great !!
@ yewbic
how did you change edison aspect ? just looked into its artworks but i don't have find a background image or something , just the pannel picture though



right on.

about Edison.. I didnt do much to it I just added some modified gradients to improve the color intensity of the spectrum view (when you hit the letter 's' on your keyboard while in edison you can view the spectrum view).
If you click on the icon that looks like an eye, then go to 'display settings', it will let you choose from a few different presets for coloring of the spectrum view. all I did was add a few custom gradients to the folder that contains those images. here's a screenshot of the original "Glacier" gradient, and then there's the one i did.

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if you want that gradient I've zipped up the two custom ones I've made theres a blue one and a red one. just unzip them into the folder:

C:\Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 7\Plugins\Fruity\Effects\Edison\Data\Spectrum gradients

and they should appear in the "Display Settings" next time you open an instance of edison.

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yewbic
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quote:
Originally posted by mudd
I would appreciate a decent tutorial on using this plugin, the one in the FL bible is useless


A Parametric EQ might look intimidating at first glance if you've never used one before.. but trust, its a very powerful type of EQ and fairly easy to use once you understand how it works.

some basics for ya.

refer to this image i posted in an earlier post (might have to log-in to see it):



On the main spectrum window on the left you see 7 what are called "tokens", these are Equalizer Bands which you can freely click and drag about to alter the frequencies of the audio on the mixer track in which that Plugin resides. If you have audio coming through on the mixer track you'll notice that the window will light up with shades of red. How this works, basically, is the brightest red that you will see (which is more towards an orange) represents frequencies that are around -10dB and above in loudness, and black represents frequencies that are around -60dB and below in loudness and everything in between you can just approximate yourself. In this image above, the peaks didnt go up into -10dB so thats why you cant see any orange.

So you'll notice that you can do it all with the mouse by dragging those tokens except that you cannot control the width of the curve, only the location in the spectrum (the frequency) and the amount of boost or cut (the decibels).

If you look to the right side of the plugin you'll notice Each band or "token" has its own slider, a frequency adjuster(labeled FREQ) at the bottom, a Bandwidth Adjuster(labeled BW) also at the bottom. The Bandwidth control labeled "BW" is the one you want to adjust to modify the width of the curve of any band, just drag it up or down, like everything else. You can easily tell which one is which by the unique color of each band/token.

you will also notice that at the top right, above each slider, there is also a "Filter Type Chooser"(each filter type is represented by a small icon of a unique shape which you can hover your mouse over, click and drag up or down to change and if you look at the top left of FL Studio while doing this it'll tell you the name of each filter type) and lastly there is a "Filter Slope" section which is represented by dots underneath the filter type icon (these are circled in this image) you can also click and drag up or down on these to change the depth of the slope. If i recall correctly its 12dB per octave at 1 dot and 48dB per octave at 4 dots. this is basically saying like.. "the more the dots, the steeper the curve to cut the frequencies and thus the more decibels of cut you will most likely see".

I believe when you use more than 1 dot on other filter types, such as a "peaking filter" (the one that looks like a cross in the icons, also the standard type) it acts as " the number of instances of the filter" so 4 dots on a peaking filter would be like 4 instances of that filter layered on top of each other i believe.

and if your wondering about which filter type to use.. just experiment. most people would say to use a high-shelf to boost highs.. but I've read in Bob Katz's book "mastering audio" that he has used a peaking filter at the very edge of 20k to get a different type of curve.. so just experiment man just know that the high pass and low pass are good for cutting all frequencies either above or below a certain point depending on which you use.. makes sense "low pass - only lets the lows pass", "high pass- only lets the highs pass".

hope this shed some light, read the manual next time lol.

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quote:
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right on.

about Edison.. I didnt do much to it I just added some modified gradients to improve the color intensity of the spectrum view (when you hit the letter 's' on your keyboard while in edison you can view the spectrum view).
If you click on the icon that looks like an eye, then go to 'display settings', it will let you choose from a few different presets for coloring of the spectrum view. all I did was add a few custom gradients to the folder that contains those images. here's a screenshot of the original "Glacier" gradient, and then there's the one i did.



ok thanks for this !!
for the edison spectrum view i just made yesterday a tutorial on spectral editing and frequency removing with edison's eq tool
though it is still in french
it just came as a question to see if edison was capable of doing the job that adobe soundbooth do , and yes it can
the screenshots can be wiew here
http://forum.e-officedirect.com/for...t=750#788507999

though basicly my tutorial just show how to access

the functions and could have been more detailed ..
http://www.samplestation.net/editio...topic10912.html


btw yewbic you don't mind i put a link to this thread on looptalK ? I am sure a lot of dude could appreciate this !

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I just modified the spectrum gradient for this EQ.. I synchronized it with the decibel-to-darkness system from the Nugen Visualizer. It now has the faintest color seen on the spectrum view as -50dB, and when it first reaches complete darkness (black) thats when it's around -60dB.


I attached the bitmap here, all you have to do to install it is, first go into:


C:\Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 7\Plugins\Fruity\Effects\Fruity Parametric EQ 2\Artwork\


and you'll find 3 files:
"About.png"
"Back.bmp"
"Spectrum.bmp"


Rename the file called "Spectrum.bmp" to something like "Spectrum_original.bmp" and then download and unzip the image i zipped in this post below, and copy this image into that folder i noted above. It will replace "Back.bmp" so thats why I suggest you rename the orignal to something like "Spectrum_original.bmp" -- just incase you dont like the new one i made, you can always delete it, and rename the original back to "Spectrum.bmp". Should be simple as that.

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