try snare drum distortion in SX!!! plus snare reverb.

Aug 19, 2005

  1. infinit

    infinit
    6,034 posts
    Since Dec 29, 2001
    I was just thinking "man, this is a forum that should help people with production and all I ever do is pseudo-theoretical music philosophy in my threads:teeth: - so I wanna talk about something everyone could use":

    put the Overdrive distortion in the SEND (!) fx on the snare channel, and mix it in a bit (in my case, SX 1, where you have the send fx on the right side when you click on the track, mix in with the blue line just as minimal as your mouse resolution lets you). the Rock preset works fine. this way, you can give it enough (low mid/high lows) punch.
    same with bassdrum, just a different setting - this time, to give it a nastier kick.

    don´t know if anybody has mentioned it before.

    plus, a reverb setting: send a completely lowcut snare (cut at 2kHz or higher, maybe much higher, depends on your snare) to your reverb, choose a gated (strong) reverb, very (!) short tail, and delay this signal - not an echo effect, I mean the "delay" parameter in your reverb settings... choose the time that it rhyrhmically fits to your snare (if it´s a 2 step pattern, this works very good). it should sound something like a second somewhat reversed snare in between your main snare. mix it in just that you miss it when it´s not there.
  2. Rmonkey disMember

    Rmonkey
    4,090 posts
    Since Sep 7, 2001
    Good advice sir!

    Also, if you happen to have a Novation synth, they have a reverb called Gated Reverse which works nice on a bus too. Supernova II is good for this because it has an audio input. I'm pretty sure you could get similar results from Enverb.. i actually think there's a preset on it that would do this.




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  3. infinit

    infinit
    6,034 posts
    Since Dec 29, 2001
    :twothumbs: pm me your email adress! that was the first London visit for me, man, classic!!! been there every years ever since (sometimes twice a year). love it. building a recording studio at the moment, and that´s why I´m out of money but relatively happy:teeth: I´ll send you some tunes, forget the old shit:teeth:
  4. DJ THEORY

    DJ THEORY
    4,143 posts
    Since Dec 12, 2003
    nice tip :thumbup:
  5. 1010DATA1010 www.metalheadz.co.uk

    1010DATA1010
    7,849 posts
    Since Oct 24, 2001
    Thanks man, I'll give it a go on Banana Bomb tonight.. that might be what I needed to do to it!

    - Data.
  6. DisasterDrummer

    DisasterDrummer
    399 posts
    Since Feb 17, 2005
    i just got a desk so i can run multiple outs from my midi drum kit to cubase. using overdrive + tube distortion on the snare channel, with tube distortion on all the other channels + some multiband compression on the whole kit. it sounds really fat. its fun to play drums when you hear what youre playing post processing.
  7. aquarius

    aquarius
    1,138 posts
    Since May 24, 2005
    To do this you obviusly have to seperate kicks, snares etc on seperate tracks. Out of interest, do you like do your breaks first then seperate them or seperate them first. I usually have my hats on a seperate track, but find it a bit easoer and quicker to lay down the main beat on 1 track.

    Is there any chance of saying how you go about laying your breaks down, as thats the 1 aspect i struggle on most and am always looking for new ways to work.

    Thanks for the tips about the fx track aswell, never really used that,

    cheers
  8. spaceman Guest

    spaceman
    557 posts
    Since Jul 7, 2005
    good tips.

    in sx1 hold shift while dragging, should help a lot!

    thats one thing i hated about sx1, you have no resolution with the send level, been fixed from sx2 upwards though.
  9. Tagio

    Tagio
    415 posts
    Since Jul 20, 2004
    i like these tips. i like using guitar rig as a send for drums. it tends to mangle the audio way too much to be an insert but it makes some good noises as a send.
  10. infinit

    infinit
    6,034 posts
    Since Dec 29, 2001
    well, I have a slightly uncommon way of making drums (maybe because I´m 1. a drummer for 15 years 2. not very patient):
    1. load Kontakt, each drumpart (with drumparts I mean the individual pieces of a drumkit, f.e. snare/bassdrum/hihat&cymbals/percussion/oldschool or funk break to layer) gets an instrument... I load as much different samples in each instrument as I like, until I have various layers of drumsamples in each instrument, enough hihats and cymbals and ghostsnares etc. to keep variation through a whole tune...
    2. each drumpart gets a track in SX (SX miditrack snare -> Kontakt instrument snare, etc).
    3. doubleclick to make events and just set those funky MIDI notes and give it a go (in this stage, only processing I do is just basic lowcutting the breaks, like amen etc, that it doesn´t clash with my bassdrum)...
    4. after thewhole tune is finished arrangement wise (the creative part) and after all sounds are layed down, just before the mixdown stage (which is just a few corrections here and there, I try to do everything when tracking synths, not keeping too much fx and processing for the mixdown stage), I am processing the drums - sending each track out of the box and process it individually. sometimes, the drumgroup gets sent out again.

    that´s how I do it.

    I always forget that, but didn´t know it works with the blue send level bar as well... thanx!
  11. aquarius

    aquarius
    1,138 posts
    Since May 24, 2005
    Thanks a lot infinit,

    Thats a great bit of help, cheers
  12. dionysus soundcloud.com/richard-it

    dionysus
    373 posts
    Since Oct 10, 2004
    thankyou ohh wise one,...may you have a thousand blessings and a day of divine inspiration.
  13. World Renowned

    World Renowned
    25,174 posts
    Since Nov 28, 2001
    cheers gonna play around with some of this stuff tonight