UK declares the death of the Welfare State

Apr 3, 2012

  1. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
    10,389 posts
    Since Mar 17, 2005
    Good riddance. It was about fucking time. Fuck the pensioners and fuck the socialist way of helping everybody in equal measures. The redistribution of wealth is a myth. Hopefully, an increasingly large number of governments will take equal measures by lowering the taxes for companies and cutting the social indemnizations.



    :slayer:
  2. radjew

    radjew
    8,100 posts
    Since Jul 7, 2001
    Lets hope the 1st is spain and you get robbed by the skanks. Might burst your bubble.
  3. Russel Arnold BA, BM BCh, PhD, MRCP, DTM&H, FRCGP, DRCOG

    Russel Arnold
    3,382 posts
    Since Oct 14, 2009
    hate to break it to you mate, but youre poor and stupid.
  4. luthatron \o/ Lord Wavey \o/

    luthatron
    42,245 posts
    Since Feb 3, 2004
    lol
  5. jollycakes Reformed Troll

    jollycakes
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    Since Oct 5, 2006
    i'm trying to muster up the energy to give enough of a fuck to argue with you and call you a lobotomised chinchilla but its just not happening.
  6. monkey man

    monkey man
    6,032 posts
    Since Jun 15, 2001
    Excellent trolling! I'm sure lots of people will be drawn in by your machiavellian and audacious views. Huzzah!

    :twothumbs:
  7. luthatron \o/ Lord Wavey \o/

    luthatron
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    Since Feb 3, 2004
    we will all think he is rich and successful too!:laughing:
  8. neepheid Space Pirate

    neepheid
    5,250 posts
    Since Feb 28, 2012
    pardon me but we still seem to have an extensive social welfare system. and you only have to eat rat under a bridge for one year before becoming eligible :twothumbs:
  9. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
    10,389 posts
    Since Mar 17, 2005
    LOL, welcome to last year. Half of Europe is ditching the welfare-state. It's simply unaffordable. And yes, Spain conformed, due to their huge deficit. Of course, the proles set out to a general strike.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17545174

    And of course, nobody from the new centre-right government gave a fuck. Good men.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/30/spain-budget-cuts-austerity

    :laughing: :laughing:
  10. jollycakes Reformed Troll

    jollycakes
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    Since Oct 5, 2006
    So what solution do you have that you would like?
  11. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
    10,389 posts
    Since Mar 17, 2005
    The creators of wealth should be favorised. A common-sense, clear system putting the employer (company/individual) that actually creates the jobs on top. Prioritise those who bring the money (the capital) to the table. Without those the system is fucked because it has become a socialist hybrid by putting everybody up the ladder regardless of the fact that a large part of the population doesn't really afford it. You actually have to have some wealth in the first place in order to distribute it. The actual system is flawed because it takes money and economic soundness for granted when it clearly isn't.
  12. jollycakes Reformed Troll

    jollycakes
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    Since Oct 5, 2006
    That's generally what happens. Why don't you just be honest and say what you really think?
  13. luthatron \o/ Lord Wavey \o/

    luthatron
    42,245 posts
    Since Feb 3, 2004
    can you type this up in english so it makes sense?
  14. pijin :teeth: alwayse

    pijin
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    Since Nov 14, 2007
  15. Deceptikon

    Deceptikon
    8,316 posts
    Since Sep 22, 2001
    Parliament is so much more interesting to watch than Congress because of the noises of affirmation or dissent. Don't you guys have bench clearing brawls from time to time as well? I'd love to see something like that in congress. Lindsey Graham vs Ron Paul vs Barney Frank in a triangle match for who gets the next 5 minutes to speak.
  16. Eli Rorschach

    Eli Rorschach
    451 posts
    Since Jun 18, 2011
    Glad you're enjoying the Spanish economy before all bottom-rung IT work's outsourced to the far east :twothumbs:
  17. overlook360 only human

    overlook360
    3,783 posts
    Since Sep 5, 2008
    Am I the only one who listened to this? Tax breaks for the poor, tax increases for the rich.

    Massive subsidies (via tax cuts) for businesses in Aerospace, Science, Pharmaceuticals, and Financial Products. An emphasis on not letting the financial sector run the economy is predominant in this speech.

    This speech makes massive amounts of sense. Slowly rounding my head to the Cameron administration.

    Little wary of turning our back towards lower income families, but they call it austerity for a reason. It's not supposed to be forever.
  18. ocelot

    ocelot
    33,900 posts
    Since Dec 27, 2005
    Cuts don't mean it will actually be cut :laughing:
    Did anyone actually watch the video? Or just jumping at Attreyu's trolling?

    Lol no we're not Euros mate.
  19. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
    10,389 posts
    Since Mar 17, 2005
    It's not what happens, with few exceptions, since a long time ago. The welfare state is predominant. France is a good example of a socialist society.
  20. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
    10,389 posts
    Since Mar 17, 2005
    It will take years to happen on a large scale, and even then it will only involve relatively simple, easier to implement IT segments.
  21. Robbo Delicious

    Robbo Delicious
    22,830 posts
    Since Apr 12, 2006
    Trickle down effect!
  22. jollycakes Reformed Troll

    jollycakes
    6,022 posts
    Since Oct 5, 2006
    If true don't know what to think.

    Maybe i am 100% wrong. If so should still be a little paranoid anyway though :p
  23. Eli Rorschach

    Eli Rorschach
    451 posts
    Since Jun 18, 2011
    Who can say? :twothumbs:
  24. ocelot

    ocelot
    33,900 posts
    Since Dec 27, 2005
    France is at the mercy of its unions.
  25. luthatron \o/ Lord Wavey \o/

    luthatron
    42,245 posts
    Since Feb 3, 2004
    doesn't france have really high standard of living?

    isn't that desirable?

    (sorry if i've got this wrong!)
  26. Eli Rorschach

    Eli Rorschach
    451 posts
    Since Jun 18, 2011
    Actually (might be worth Attreyu taking note) Paris' streets are FULL of former migrant workers - rows and rows, like waiting in a sprawling casting agency for a spot in a coffee ad - lots of Romanians funnily enough - all begging for money, offering to dance, stand on their heads, tell your fortunes, offering you to punch them in the stomach for enough money to buy a potato

    Parisians treat them like vermin - swept from one shop doorway to another (literally swept with brooms), spat on, graffitied, it's pretty shocking and inhumane
  27. ocelot

    ocelot
    33,900 posts
    Since Dec 27, 2005
    Not sure, I'm pretty sure that their unions hold an unreasonable amount of power though, i think partly because they tend to have the 'a job is for life' attitude and so get more attached to whatever it is they do than us.

    Not very free though, banning the burqha, kicking swathes of gypsies out etc. That's just Europe though I guess, scared of anything not white and Christian or Jewish.
  28. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
    10,389 posts
    Since Mar 17, 2005
    It's the observable trend...:twothumbs:
  29. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
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    Since Mar 17, 2005
    Precisely.
  30. Attreyu The Traffic Controller

    Attreyu
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    Since Mar 17, 2005
    Of course it's desirable. It's just not sustainable on the long term, as the latest years have shown. It's just a matter of time before their social-economical patterns and model will have to change.