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Production | Nov 22, 2003
Which filters do Bad Company use? Especialy on track like The Pulse
i would tell you ... but then i would have to KEEL you
nearly any filter can do what it does on the pulse
sorry that wasnt very helpful of me. basically, try useing a synth with some proper filters in it already that have good sources for modulation (like carbon for reaktor) or the filters in kontakt. the new antares filter looks bad still have to try it out tho ..
well in actuality it is of course an emu
Thanks for the info guys
The grid is slowly becoming like the board
When you're searching for info on the grid and all you find is yourself asking the same questions 14 years ago...
Do we actually know that Bad Company used EMUs?
The talky mid bass stuff (also like optical gas mask or Kemal star trails, or c4c tunes ...) is the special chorus section of the emu that was modulated in the real gem: the emu mod section, lfo, and adsr envelope .
Flip that chorus on and you'll know what I mean; it's just THAT sound. You just don't hear those kinds of midbass in tunes anymore too, since most people aren't producing with an emu at hand...
The rest of the filtered bass sounds imo are standard high pass or lopass emu filters, which according to Andy Cytomic, the Drop already beats the pants off of in terms of analog response - something about the emu filter algos being very old math)
Ok thanks that's some really useful info, which EMUs do I need to be looking at for these features?
they all have this (except the esi range). but i'd go for an ultra. e5000 are the cheapest so start there. (budget for a few mods to upgrade them to 2017 like an scsi2Sd drive for saving samples ($100/euro100 or less) and a quiet fan ($10/euro10).
they're not hard to learn but for sure much slower-going. it helps to understand the architecture first (see manual), so you know what goes where and what influences what...
then just sample anything you want from your computer: bass lines, noises, whatever, gain it all, twist envelopes and lfos, and sequence away. pretty much instant BC and virus crew sounds...
one of these should do it:
Apologies. I've got an proteus 2000 and you can get similar sounds, programming it is a bitch though.
I've got one of these with the Proteus soundbank, perhaps I should get stuck into it more
Thanks for all the help, I have an Akai S3200XL so I know the speed of work you can expect from a hardware sampler!
Mille born! Thanks for the heads up on the chorus! I have an emu and never really messed with the chorus
its not the chorus in the fx section, its the one in the Voice Modifiers > Tuning page... Just take a reece, gain it so its crunchy, and set chorus amount and width to very low amounts, like 2-7%
I bet he just figured out about that filtering has been used. And now he want to know what kind of types could be used so he can move the cutoff up and down on the right one, before he turns on his sampler at all. :)
Yeah XL7 has that as well, it's pretty nice.
sick! have never heard the xl7 but would be super curious, if you manage to put up any samples of its chorus on clyp...
ftp://ftp.breakbeat.net/incoming/EMU XL7 detune saw with chorus and 4th order band pass C and G.wav
ftp://ftp.breakbeat.net/incoming/EMU XL7 detune saw with chorus C and G.wav
sick -- threw them into the emu and made these:
afaik the Waldorf Q was their go to synth for those early releases
Everybody and their mother doing D&B back in those days had an Emu.
Woah that's nice, which EMU are you using? What was the process with these clips?
E5K... Just sampled them in. Gained them +10db or more, applied that chorus and modulated a filter sweep with envelope and lfo (so a few mod sources at the same time), wrote out a single note, resampled and then repeated from the top 3 more times...
The extra gain gives the filter and chorus more dirt and crunch to sweep thru. Resampling exaggerates it.
Yeah I suspected it was the gain part, the XL7 can't overdrive a waveform so I think that's a crucial missing part, shame.