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Production | Aug 25, 2015
clip the shit out of it. you need to set up your sampler correctly. check my explanation
I've clipped the heck out the top layer (not so much the lower layer as I want to keep the sub freq's) and my sampler is set to output as loud as possible etc. I will try low pass over the screechy high passed resampled 808 - is the only bit i've not done so far.
There seems to be conflicting views also on whether it's necessary to put the low and high layer in different groups and/or presets? The way I have it setup is simply 2 different voices in the same group in the same preset. Could this affect the result?
I think you can apply a different filter to each group as you don't want the same filter type for your sub voice as your mids voice.
Clipped the top layer? How? The sample? You got to clip the voice itself. Sample --> Voice (with all your stuff going on) --> Voice-Filter --> CLIP --> output (--> Clip)
This is news to me! I've just been adding gain to the sample till I get a lot of clipping/distortion then adding filters to it within the voice afterwards. So your method clips the the voice after the filter (and modulations) is applied to the voice? I assume this distorts the filter sweeps to get 'that' sound?
Can you explain this bit? Not sure how I clip the voice or which 'output' you are referring to? Thanks!
exactly. There are some settings in the setup menus where you can set headroom. You want as little headroom as possible to get the biggest effect. Also turn that little volume knob to its max setting, this makes the entire sampler louder. The sampler then may clip after the filters. Sweeping with some resonance against that digital EMU ceiling creates that famous EMU sound.
I'm currently setting up my hackintosh and I'm having a hard time doing so, so you gotta wait until I can explain a little better
Thanks man that's demystified the whole thing!!!
Good luck with the Hackintosh. I will see if I can work it out from your description.
whats the best stratetgy to handle banks and presets? How is your selection process for sounds?
I know sampling analog into the EMU is the best way. I have a lot Wave Samplepacks with interesting Drums and Breaks which i want to put on my CF Card. The reason why is, it is easier for me to start with some samples and alter my presets later.
For Breaks, most of them are chopped in Recycle, to get the bits and pieces. In addition to that i have oldschool-cutted breaks, starting from the kick, snare, hat, etc.
if using your CF card, try this osx app: E4B Tool (limited development + support, courtesy martinfay.com) ...
it will make basic banks for you on your desktop out of a selection of wav files...
save the bank to your CF and load up
thx milleborne. i totally forgat that tool. i noticed the message of that tool in the E-MU group on Facebook.
i need command line instructions to handle it right? i didn`t downloaded the attached Zip File.
Does anybody has the settings to stop OSX creating an initial file set on storage mediums. The E-MUs don`t like them.
nice info cheers
that's like being enlighted! no wonder i was getting fuckall out of the emu. big ups!
I pissed about with the headroom the other day with some dirty 808's. getting some lovely fuzz outta this box now! Cheers! Out of interest, how high did you have it set? Got mine at 0 now which is LOUD through my mixer alone. So I patched it through a compressor which is giving me some much better gain staging, saves me clipping the mixer channel too hot.
Finished my hackintosh and will start fiddling around with my instruments again, I will tell you then how I set everything up. I remember my channels on my desk are not clipping, only if I want to I have to turn up the gain a bit, but yeah, the EMU can be extremely loud. I have never encountered anything coming near that
no command line necessary
hehe. i like. simple and without any annoying frills.
is there any program like this for Windows?
go find it for free tho.
I used the X3 for a while, its too old school and frustrating in comparison to the actual hardware sampler. I couldn't find a way to control any parameters through midiCC or ableton. It's just a pain in the balls really without the actual sound of the sampler and only good for interesting z-plane filters, at the expense of usability.
Thanks man, the various values for your gains in the Emu would be great to know.
I've been running Emu straight back into Ableton with most gains maxed out and it clips in Ableton by 6-10db or so - I've just stuck a gain utility on the Ableton channel to bring it back down so I just get the Emu distortion not the ugly Ableton clipping.
has there been any research into upgrading an e4 to use 24bit samples?
Never had an E-mu but I've wanted one since 2000. I've tried the E-mu software sampler but it just felt cold to me. Is anyone selling atm?
Chickensys Translator or Constructor could be an alternative too. Translator is a bit buggy. Never tried Constructor.
Isn´t it possible to compile E4B Tool into a Windows executable file?
that would be great! I wouldn't even know where to begin to make it happen, though.
The C++ Source Code of the E4B Tool is included in the linked package. My programming skills are quite rusty. What i saw on the first sight in the code, compiling to a Windows executable should be possible. I don`t know what kind of libraires are required. I think gcc or g++ should work. Unfortunately i`m using OSX. Bootcamp isn`t installed. I`ll switching to a new computer. When its done i can test it, but it will take some weeks.
Has anyone tried these WiFI / WLAN Cards? With these devices file exchange to the EMU should be a lot easier.
for any recompiling i'd recommend getting in touch with martin directly via his website martin78.com (he's the author and copyright holder). he's pretty active in all things sampler-based, esp on the facebook groups for the emu... great guy, great resource and i'm sure more than willing to collaborate in making this happen/available as a tool on all platforms.
that would be awesome. please report back with any updates
1. he provided the source code in the package. 2. Recompiling isn´t copyright protected. I will try to create a windows compatible make, from his code. I won´t change any license informations nor violate any copyrights 3. if someone tries to make money or state that the code is from him or her, this is prohibited of course! 4. i will share my work on the same as way as martin did.
i don´t see any problems here.